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Post subject: Window frit  PostPosted: Mar 18, 2017 - 03:33 AM
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Window frit is the black edging on window glass that hides the structure behind it when the window is installed. At least that is what I've been told.

http://www.dedona.com/the-purpose-of-the-frit-black-band-and-spots-on-windshield/

I was wondering how to put that on and was told to use the "glue" that you use to install the window. Just mask the glass and spread it with a bodywork spreader. That might work BUT when I ordered the 3M Window-weld on Amazon, they said people also bought this primer to use on the glass before bonding.

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00473W5V8/ref=od_aui_detailpages02?ie=UTF8&psc=1

This is really easy to use and produces the frit you need. Be sure to clean the glass really good. I used lacquer thinner then used masking tape to mask the area that remains clear. The primer is very liquid. I used a cheap foam brush to apply it. One coat seems to be enough and it dries very quickly. It also serves it's purpose as a primer for the window-weld glue.
When you apply the masking tape, be sure to press it down securely, especially along the edge of the tape where it overlaps another tape. The primer will seep under the tape and need cleanup if you don't.

I just thought I'd pass this along.

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Post subject: RE: Window frit  PostPosted: Mar 20, 2017 - 06:26 AM
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Was that about this subject we discussed a while back?

http://www.kitcentral.com/index.php?name=PNphpBB2&file=viewtopic&t=11376&start=0&postdays=0&postorder=asc&highlight=&sid=46f7ae1257abbf1bbae0e572539c6ef1

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Post subject: RE: Window frit  PostPosted: Mar 20, 2017 - 12:59 PM
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Lambo_Sam...
Yep, that was the same post. I was told to do that with the urethane but didn't get to it yet. When I finally did, I found out what I was told would work but then i saw this primer at Amazon where I bought my urethane.
I saw your really nice job with the urethane as frit that proves it works.
I bought the primer to see what that was about and it was very easy to use. That produced the same results. Sorry if I misled anyone but these cars are a never-ending learning process.
I also read a lot of the posts at Amazon from users of the urethane tubes and they say to warm up the tubes before you try to push it through the gun. It is very thick. I will see, probably today.
I am getting close to finish!

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Post subject: RE: Window frit  PostPosted: Mar 20, 2017 - 03:26 PM
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RT - Congratulations on getting close to the finish line! I hope you stick around after you've completed your car. The rest of us can learn a lot from what you've accomplished.
 
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Post subject: RE: Window frit  PostPosted: Mar 20, 2017 - 04:59 PM
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Thanks RT, well I didn't use any primer but I prep with alcohol and acetone before applying anything and so far so good! (individual results may vary) But I used this for windshield, door glass and quarter windows, it never mentions that primer was needed, I figured if it's good enough for NASCAR it's got to be good enough for me...lol, This stuff cured really well and fast! And yes a heat gun to soften the tube works just fine.. expensive though! $25 bucks a tube!
https://www.bing.com/images/search?view=detailV2&ccid=4%2bqyL%2f9%2b&id=1E735EF065EB21BE6983B580FB503EE0B50F6286&q=windshield+urethane&simid=608013211255311988&selectedIndex=10&ajaxhist=0

I USED THIS ON REAR WINDOW AND QUARTER GLASS TRIM WORKED AWESOME
https://www.bing.com/images/search?view=detailV2&ccid=WrSiOGYw&id=45804091DFDC9F03D8910A7AF5E05EF1202742F3&q=3m+window+weld&simid=607995820932664750&selectedIndex=1&ajaxhist=0

BUT! After all that was done I was informed I could of used this, much cheaper but Oh well...It's done now, But I do need to replace my windshield so maybe I will try this next time...
http://www.ebay.com/itm/2-x-DOW-U-428-Windshield-Urethane-Adhesive-Primerless-Automotive-Glue-Sealant-/111457704543?hash=item19f3659a5f:g:VGkAAOSwj0NUdOqq

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Post subject: RE: Window frit  PostPosted: Mar 20, 2017 - 08:36 PM
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daywilm...
Thanks, I can see the finish line! I will be around even after I've finished. Do they ever become finished? I am sure I will be quite a while working out the bugs and fine tuning everything.

Lambo_Sam...
Good to know the windshield and other windows went in like a pro. I did heat the tube this morning by placing it in a deep pan with hot water and set the stove on the lowest setting. The tube was pretty cold when I started but was very warm by the time I used it. That made it flow nicely. Another good tip is to use disposable rubber gloves. That stuff will find a way onto your fingers and hands even if you are careful. Be sure to clean it off of the places you don't want it before it sets up. Masking tape will help protect the nearby areas.
This stuff can be used to seal any gaps that could leak water into the car. Just remember it is black and can be seen so be neat.

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Post subject: RE: Window frit  PostPosted: Mar 20, 2017 - 08:53 PM
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Cool RT, The best removal stuff to use is Goof off and Goo gone.

Keep us posted on the progress and take plenty pictures, I still love seeing yours and everyone's pics of progress!

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Post subject: RE: Window frit  PostPosted: Mar 21, 2017 - 02:36 PM
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Thanks for the links RT! I just picked up some of that 428 for my quarter and back glass.

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Umm you are welcome for the link!...lol

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HA HA!! oops! Sorry about that Sam.

Yeah. Thanks for the link! Smile That stuff came in on Friday. Probably use it to seal some of the gaps I have around my windshield near the bottom. I can run a blower over the glass and see the plastic flagging inside where there are tiny gaps in it.

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lol no worries, you can Thank RT for this great topic though, I have never used the 428 so keep us posted how well it works.

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Good timing. With the help of professional installer, I did the frit (or primer) on my windshield like RT. However, I applied Activator to both the windshield and windshield frame (Betaprime Clear SA in a toothbrush like applicator). Then we used the primer (Dow Betaprime 5504G). One coat to the windshield frame and 3-4 coats on the windshield to make it completely black. The last coat was used with the help of a flashlight to fill any streaks or pin holes. It looks really good!

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To my great amazement, I have just learned that the local printing shop can inkjet the frit on, dot matrix and all, cheap and easy. I am about to do my Chupacabra glass that way, will let the Forum know how it turns out.
 
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