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Post subject: Ebay Fraud, Help Needed  PostPosted: Sep 08, 2007 - 07:05 PM
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Hi,

I recently purchased a set of wheel and tires for my kit off eBay. I paid for them through wire transfer bank to bank and they never arrived. The seller said she had been in an accident and the wheel were ruined and she would be returning my money.

I have not recieved my money. I reported it to eBay but they have done nothing.

Here are some details:

eBay Details:
User ID: angelm222
Name: Chantavia C Gibson
Company:
City: ORLANDO
County: FL
Country: United States
Phone: (407) 297-6581
Registered Since: Sunday, 07 Jul, 2002 00:43:57 GMT


Bank Details:
Name: Chantavia C Gibson
Bank name: WACHOVIA BANK
Routing #: 067006432
Account #: 1010151069235
Full bank address #: 2630 MAGURIE RD OCOEE, FL 34761, USA


I've tried calling her and the number has been disconected.

What can I do? The wheels cost $2700, and thats alot to me! 4 months wages to be precise!

Has anyone else ever had people ripping them off, and then what have you done?

Thanks for any help,
Chris.
 
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Post subject: RE: Ebay Fraud, Help Needed  PostPosted: Sep 08, 2007 - 07:29 PM
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HI:

eBay boo boos take awile to file a claim and get results.
Remind eBay that this is not a dispute but you are filing a fraud claim.
Save print outs of all you email and phone records.

Ask the seller to send you pictures!
Y
ou definetly want to go thru eBay claims and also contact your bank about fraud.

There may not be a refund from the bank but interstate fraud can send the alert to a higher level of authorities.


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Post subject:   PostPosted: Sep 08, 2007 - 08:49 PM
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Thanks dB. I have all the emails saved on my computer.

This is the auction...
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ih=011&sspagename=STRK%3AMEWN%3AIT&viewitem=&item=320144261744&rd=1

Certainly looked good to me.

And I am in the UK, this is international fraud! I will go into my bank on monday, but to be honest, I'm not expecting much. Then I will go to the police, but again I doubt they will help. I wish there was a way of just getting the money transfered straight out of her bank account back into mine. I have also contacted her bank to see if they will help me.

I was in contact with her just after I sent the money, and then she sent this...

"Pls sorry, but I have not had time to send your wheels.
I went to send it and has had an accident. I could not write to you.

Now I write to you from hospital.
The wheels are completely spoilt. It is very pity. I have asked my friend to send the money back to you. And he will make it in monday. Pls send to me essential elements of your bank account.

On Monday it will be sent and on Tuesday money will be at you.

It is very a pity. I will send to you little bit more to defray your expenses on sending of money to me."

Then I have never heard anything since. I have tried telephoning her but her line has been disconected.

There isn't anyone local to her area on here is there that would be willing to help me?

Thanks,
Chris.
 
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Post subject:   PostPosted: Sep 08, 2007 - 09:44 PM
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Hi:

Contact eBay and file the fraud claim.

eBay will look into it and pull the money from her account if it checks out.
But YOU have to file the claim and quickly.

If the wheels were in here car and she truly was in an accident, her car insurance should cover contents.


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Post subject:   PostPosted: Sep 08, 2007 - 10:48 PM
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Chris sorry to hear... I always do the following which is good for most things you buy off ebay. Have them send you an email and if you use a service like Yahoo or Hotmail go to your options and turn on full header.
Then you can see the IP which the email came from. Go to the net and use one of the Free IP tracking services, if the sender is not from the State or more importat the country where you are buying from, you know it is a fraud..


Hope this helps others to...

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Post subject:   PostPosted: Sep 08, 2007 - 11:56 PM
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Don't send her the "essential elements of your bank account"!
You will find it emptied!
Sorry for your experience but don't make it worse.

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Post subject: FRAUD  PostPosted: Sep 09, 2007 - 02:06 AM
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Chris, I sent you a pm

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Post subject: RE: FRAUD  PostPosted: Sep 09, 2007 - 09:26 AM
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Thanks for all the help guys.

I did send her my bank account details but I emptied it before hand. Nothing had been taken.

I have found out the IP address from the emails she has sent and it is 172.20.107.65 . I think that is a CA IP address, so suppose its real.

Also, I have reported an item not recieved and the 10 days has passed and the dispute has been closed. How do I escalate this into a fraud claim?

Again, thanks alot guys for all your help.

Chris.
 
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Post subject: RE: FRAUD  PostPosted: Sep 09, 2007 - 04:14 PM
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Hi:

Go to eBay website and start all the claims proceedure they have outlined.
http://pages.ebay.com/securitycenter/index.html?_trksid=m37


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Post subject: RE: FRAUD  PostPosted: Sep 09, 2007 - 08:29 PM
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Thanks dB. I have already done an item not recieved report, and the 10 days have passed and now it has been closed. What can I do now? Is there any way to escalate this further with eBay?
 
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Post subject: RE: FRAUD  PostPosted: Sep 09, 2007 - 08:49 PM
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HI:

There is a phone number you can call and get help.
It is listed in the web address I posted.

What has eBay stated in regards to this case?
You may want to PM me if you do not want the answer public?

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Post subject: RE: FRAUD  PostPosted: Sep 09, 2007 - 10:12 PM
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Hi dB,

I couldn't find the phone number, could you post it here?

And all I have done is filed an item not recieved claim, then waited 10 days and closed the dispute with the option 'I feel I have no other option but to report this seller to the eBay Trust & Safety team'. I have just been looking on eBay about this and it says that I have to wait 40 days since the end of the auction to be able to escalate the dispute. That is this Friday (14th).

Am I doing this right? I checked the dispute console and it just says closed, nothing about escalating the dispute. Has anyone else had to wait 40 days to be able to take their claim further with eBay?

Thanks for all your help,
Chris.
 
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Post subject: RE: FRAUD  PostPosted: Sep 09, 2007 - 10:18 PM
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HI:
http://pages.ebay.com/help/tp/inr-snad-process.html

http://contact.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ShowCUPortal&ShowCUPortal=&guest=1


Use the online chat system.
Yes, it takes more than 10 days to get a refund if you can get one.


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Post subject:   PostPosted: Oct 02, 2007 - 07:03 PM
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This stinks of one of those Nigerian scams. I have a Myspace account and I get all kinds of Hot Babe emails speaking in the same broken jargan in your reply letter. Date line NBC investigated several of these scams and the Nigerians readily spoke in this way. People are getting wise to Nigeria now so they are sending reps to canada and florida to throw victims off. The ad is a copy of somebody elses ad like they been doing to my car, so the ad looks good. Amoung the many things they do, they recruit real americans with promisses of Hot Babe love or huge riches in a busness venture, to gain access to accounts and credentials the Nigerians will use to rip others off with. That is probably how they have 3yo feedback. Its somebody elses Ebay account.

Paypal has $2000 protection, and whole vehicals have $20,000 protection, but there is so much fine print I am doubious they will anty up for a wire transfer of any other product. I hope it works out but you are so far away...
 
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Post subject:   PostPosted: Oct 02, 2007 - 07:13 PM
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Yea, If I could do it all over again, I wouldn't pay by wire transfer. But you live and learn I suppose. I've got my bank on it now, but I'm not hoping much. I have pretty much given up on it, and just thinking screw it.

And I have just recieved my new wheels from a guy in the UK! And they were cheap!
 
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