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Post subject: BMW V12 Dry Sump Setup?  PostPosted: Oct 19, 2009 - 08:09 PM
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Anyone interested in sharing costs for the best aftermarket dry sump system made?

Because my dry sump reverse engineering project has been stalled for so long, I've been in contact with Bill Dailey of Dailey Engineering. He's interested in doing a system for the BMW V12 (he already has done the BMW V8 and V10 motors after receiving orders from the factory), but needs to do at least 3 of them to make it worth his design & setup costs. Cost for each one shouldn't be more than $3500 (hopefully).

For those who aren't familiar with them, Dailey's dry sump setups are prized worldwide for their quality, performance and efficiency. One of the nicest features of them is that the pump is integrated with the pan, so there's no rat's nest of SS braided hose coming off the pan to the pump. It looks "engineered" instead of thrown together, as most dry sump setups are.

Here's his website: www.daileyengineering.com, and here's the integrated setup for the BMW V8: http://www.daileyengineering.com/e93_v8.htm

If anyone is seriously interested, please PM me.

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Post subject: RE: BMW V12 Dry Sump Setup?  PostPosted: Oct 19, 2009 - 10:39 PM
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That is nice.....

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Post subject: RE: BMW V12 Dry Sump Setup?  PostPosted: Oct 20, 2009 - 12:52 PM
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Duplicate post


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Post subject: RE: BMW V12 Dry Sump Setup?  PostPosted: Oct 20, 2009 - 12:53 PM
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Another duplicate post, sorry.

Received an error message when I posted that the message failed to post (but apparently didn't)

Can a mod or admin please remove these duplicates?


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Post subject:   PostPosted: Oct 20, 2009 - 12:54 PM
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Just an update, Bill has indicated he only needs an order for (3) pans to make this happen, not the whole setup.

While not fixed in stone yet, he's estimating the pan will be similar to his BMW inline six pan, which costs around $1800. So for those who don't want to come out of pocket for the whole setup, you could buy just the pan now, and add one of his pumps later.

Again, please PM me if interested - I'm looking at trying to get these done in the 1st quarter of 2010.
 
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Post subject:   PostPosted: Nov 11, 2009 - 12:23 PM
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I would suggest that you talk with Henry at Powerplant Racing in NC. He is THE BMW V12 guy. He has done multiple dry sumps. His motors make great power and he is held in very high regard within the informed BMW community. Check out his website. All he does is build all levels of BMW 6 & 12 cylinder. YouTube videos are also out there. Check out his custom throttle and injection system. He is top shelf.
 
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I do believe that John is very familiar with him as I think Henry is building his motor

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Cool, thanks.
 
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Post subject:   PostPosted: Nov 12, 2009 - 02:41 AM
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Hello Michael, yes I'm very familiar with Henry. He's building up a 6.0l V12 for me. It's for this motor that he's been trying to build a Dailey type dry sump, however he wasn't getting the cooperation he needed from his machine shop, so we've thrown in the towel and and are buying the real thing.


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Hello John,

Thank you for the response. As you have likely surmised, I am new to this group. Sorry for the duplication. Just trying to help. I will watch as you post forward as I am not familiar with the Dailey dry sump (my cars are M73 850's).
 
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VERY nice rides Michael! I'm sure they keep you busy.

I've often thought about getting one, but it must be miserable trying to get access to work on anything in the engine bay?

Was that you who had a 6.0l built by Henry a few years ago, with titanium rods and some other goodies?
 
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No problem at all, we welcome any new leads on these engines. As you know performance info on them is scarce

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I had been tempted to try and utilise the chain drive within the sump to drive the pump in some way, is he coming off the front of the crank?
 
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Ok just answered my own question by looking at the sump pic you posted a link to, looks very good although probably a step to far for me at the moment... Im planning to use the existing sump and maching a plate to go onto the bottom to do the scavenging etc...

I havent been on here for ages, hows the engine coming along and what spec did you end up going for?
 
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Post subject:   PostPosted: Dec 05, 2009 - 03:30 AM
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andy wrote:
Ok just answered my own question by looking at the sump pic you posted a link to, looks very good although probably a step to far for me at the moment... Im planning to use the existing sump and maching a plate to go onto the bottom to do the scavenging etc...

I havent been on here for ages, hows the engine coming along and what spec did you end up going for?


Andy, was wondering where you were! Have tried to email you a couple of times, but they bounced. I'll PM you my email addy, and let's catch up!
 
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